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‘It’s Not Going to Hurt’: Cohen’s Testimony Does Little to Change Minds

“I do not believe he is a racist at all,” Mr. Gonzalez said, pointing to Mr. Trump’s push for programs to rehabilitate blighted areas and the presence of Darrell Scott, an African-American pastor and a member of Mr. Trump’s executive transition team and diversity coalition. “And I have been to his properties such as Mar-a-Lago and the Trump Hotel in Washington, D.C., where I have seen plenty of African-Americans on staff. He would not be hiring and appointing African-Americans if he was truly a racist.”

Mr. Gonzalez had already read articles about the hearing. He knew what to expect. Still, he said he found the process upsetting because it was a deterrent from more important issues, such as border security and economic growth.

Jason Porter, 44, a gym teacher from Durham, N.C., agreed.

Mr. Trump has been a decent president, he said, pointing to low unemployment and a strong economy.

“Whether you believe in the wall or not, he’s doing it,” said Mr. Porter, finishing dinner Wednesday evening at Johnny’s Barbecue in nearby Louisburg, N.C., where he was waiting for a basketball match.

Mr. Porter, a registered independent, said he often voted Republican in presidential elections. He said he did not vote for Mr. Trump enthusiastically, but could not face another Clinton in the White House. Besides, his former job, as an IT consultant for a large phone company, was outsourced to Manila in 2015, and Mr. Trump spoke to that. Mr. Porter said Mr. Trump was a lot like Ronald Reagan.

“Reagan was pegged for being stupid, but he had an idea of what America should be,” he said. “Trump is like that. He has a vision for what he wants.”

When asked whether he would vote for Mr. Trump if the election was happening now, Mr. Porter said it would depend on whom the Democratic candidate was. “If they run another Hillary,” he said, Mr. Trump would “get my vote all day long.”

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